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> the total complex of relations between people living in society
is how [Merriam-Webster defines politics](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/politics){target="_blank" rel="external"}. It is not the only definition, and it is not the first definition, but its nicely non-circular and doesnt get us bogged down in what is and isnt government policy.
is how [Merriam-Webster defines politics](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/politics). It is not the only definition, and it is not the first definition, but its nicely non-circular and doesnt get us bogged down in what is and isnt government policy.
That might be a more expansive definition than what youre used to. Lets take a detour.
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> A political contribution which we feel we have already made is the expansion of the feminist principle that the personal is political.
— [Combahee River Collective Statement](https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/combahee-river-collective-statement-1977/){target="_blank" rel="external"}
— [Combahee River Collective Statement](https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/combahee-river-collective-statement-1977/)
“The personal is political” and associated political movement is pushback against an insistence on individualizing systemic issues. Crenshaw frames it as a “process of recognizing as social and systemic what was formerly perceived as isolated and individual” ([Mapping the Margins: Intersectionality, Identity Politics, and Violence against Women of Color by Kimberlé Crenshaw](https://www.jstor.org/stable/1229039){target="_blank" rel="external"}) and its *vital* in our current understanding of things like sexual assault and domestic violence as — forgive me for repeating the word yet again — *systemic* issues.
“The personal is political” and associated political movement is pushback against an insistence on individualizing systemic issues. Crenshaw frames it as a “process of recognizing as social and systemic what was formerly perceived as isolated and individual” ([Mapping the Margins: Intersectionality, Identity Politics, and Violence against Women of Color by Kimberlé Crenshaw](https://www.jstor.org/stable/1229039)) and its *vital* in our current understanding of things like sexual assault and domestic violence as — forgive me for repeating the word yet again — *systemic* issues.
## What does “no politics” gain us?
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Especially in environments where you want to welcome a large and diverse group of people, the aim should be to make the membership and prospective membership comfortable (possibly while also warding off trolls who want to argue).
For some, "the law isn't about shaping society, it's about who gets punished" ([I Hate Mondays by Innuendo Studios](https://youtu.be/yts2F44RqFw?si=QZMJQWqahdJ4-1Eb&t=452){target="_blank" rel="external"}). Politics are a method of assigning blame. "No politics" means no one is to blame.
For some, "the law isn't about shaping society, it's about who gets punished" ([I Hate Mondays by Innuendo Studios](https://youtu.be/yts2F44RqFw?si=QZMJQWqahdJ4-1Eb&t=452)). Politics are a method of assigning blame. "No politics" means no one is to blame.
## Interlude
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- there are ways to limit how "no politics" gets deployed: make specific rules against shutting down people talking about their lived experience, avoid backseat modding becoming the norm
- there are ways to limit your definition of "politics" so that you can more carefully delineate what you are trying to avoid, though I would be wary of this route - the fact is that a No Politics rule, no matter how well reasoned, may read as a red flag for a marginalized person
[Politics of Political](https://blog.oup.com/2018/11/politics-of-political/){target="_blank" rel="external"}
[Politics of Political](https://blog.oup.com/2018/11/politics-of-political/)